Warhammer 40K: Submarining at Tournaments – FTN

This is a heavy episode, so be warned. I’m anxious to hear your opinion on what’s happening in the competitive scene right now.

Hey all,

Is deliberately coming in under what could be your max score fine to do in a Swiss-style pairing system?

I fully expect some blowback from this episode and that’s cool.  We mention in the show how much of an opportunity to even have this discussion means to the competitive scene as a whole.

Our whole goal is to just inject a few things into the conversation so others may come to their own conclusion.  Ultimately once the dice start getting played and people are going through the motions can you hate the system or the tactic?  We don’t claim to solve this but I am interested in knowing what YOU think.

This is not an attempt to shame anyone in any event in any part of the world.  The systems, or constructs, as they allow for this type of stuff and it’s not necessarily a bad thing.  As our scene continues to become more mainstream it’s cool to get these things out in the open and for us as a collective group to decide IF we want this to still be the case.

Ultimately it’s a risky move that rarely works out but when it does, does how we feel about it even matter?

We want to encourage more and more people to come out to events when we’re able to do so.  Does this type of thing detract from that?  The answer, like with most things, is ‘it depends.’  Some people will be put off by things like Submarining but others won’t and I think for an even larger group the overall appeal of the events and the unlikeliness that this sort of things will impact them will be an even bigger draw.

Author: Paul Murphy

Paul Murphy, the man behind Forge the Narrative, the #1 Warhammer 40K podcast. Podcaster and Columnist at Bell of Lost Souls. I've been playing and covering Warhammer since 1991 - Rogue Trader Alumni! I've won several major Warhammer events including Adepticon.