Warhammer 40K Rumors: CSM Next Codex Even More Rules Tidbits
It’s been three weeks since the last big batch of CSM rumors slipped out of the woodwork. There’s more.
These aren’t the latest, and have been doing the rounds with some minor tweaks over the past few days. They came from B&C and Reddit. Here’s the latest word on what may come in an upcoming CSM codex:
The Original Rumors
“Ok so here is a bunch of info I managed to come by from secure sources: CSM doctrine:
exact same thing as SM, except replace +1AP with exploding 6s (unmodified hits)
Icons:
- vengeance +1 CA
- wrath +1ap melee
- flame +1ap shooting
- excess +1 to hit melee
- despair 6s to hit = autowound
All legions are getting 6 WT, 8 relics & 8 stratagems
Legion traits:
NL
- -2LD & -1CA @ 9”
- +1 to advance & +1 to charges
- When using a pistol/assault/melee vs below half strenght unit or LD 6 and below = +1 to wound
IW
- Ignores cover
- Reduce ap1/2 by 1
- Heavy/grenade vs vehicules/buildings/units in cover = +1 to wound
WB
- Charges/HI = reroll hits
- 5+++ vs MW
- When using a pistol/assault/melee = 6s to wound cause 1MW (capped @ 3MW per unit)
BL
- ignore CA
- +1 to hit when charge or shoot closest unit
- rapid fire/assault/pistol = exploding 5s (hit)
EC (4chain leak, not from my sources)
- in the book
- have a way of consistently hitting on 2s (even with thunder hammers)
WE
- Not in the codex
Datasheet info:
Chosen
- 3w
- can use TH
Mutilators
- no longer in the book
Warp talon
- 2w
- lost cancel overwatch
- gained no fallback
- 5a (these are total with claws)
Raptors
- still have the -1LD aura
- +2a
Obliterators
- can shoot units that are in engagement range with them (like wraithguard)
- in melee they have powerfists without the -1 to hit
- 3 different shooting profiles
Havocs
- exactly the same as right now but 2w
Stratagems
- something to ignore invuls (4chan leak, so take with a grain of salt, leak said EC chosen could destory custodes hitting with TH on a 2+ and with strat ignore invul saves)
- NL deepstrike strat for jump packs, DS turn 1
- NL vox scream disables AURAS
Other
- IW ectoplasma forgefiend can hit on 2+ and does flat 4 damage
- New cultist unit HQ
- New mutant culstists
The New Rumors
“Alright some big updates.
So my source corrected me on some things that I wrote here. Marks and daemonic gifts are one and the same. So this means marks need to be purchased and on top of providing a keyword it also provides you automatically with the daemonic gift.
So you want to make your chosen khorne. You pay some points and the chosen gain the keyword khorne & the +1s on the charge. This also means that the perks apply to all core and characters, including helbrutes.”
Marks & Icons
Now for icons, here is a list of markable units who can have icons:
- Legionaires
- Chosen
- Possessed
- Bikers
- Terminator
Here is a list of markable units that cannot get icons:
- Raptors
- Warptalons
- Helbrute
- Havocs
Raptors (unit of 5-10)
- Chainsword and pistol
- Up to 2 special weapons
- Up to 2 plasma pistols
- Champ
- Can take plasma pistol
- Power sword or fist
Bikers (unit of 3-9)
- Replace pistol for chainsword
- Up to 2 special weapons
- Up to 2 replace combi weapons with combi plas/melt/flam
- Icon
- Champ
- Plasma pistol
- 1 weapon from Melee weapon
Warptalons (unit of 5-10)
Lucius
- Gains 3 additional attacks and +1 damage if fighting a unit with a 3+ WS
Cypher
- Can only be hit on a 4+
Harkon
Can make a raptor unit reroll hit and wound.
Abbadon
- Is incredibly killy.
Thoughts
Normally these type of rumors come and go, but lets’s dive in. The original set is whipsered to be quite close to the mark. No word on this latest set. There’s a lot of further clarifications on Marks, who can and can’t get them. Raptors and Bikers look to be getting an update in the amount of extra gear they can equip.
As for the named characters, all are a little exected and “in their lane”. Lucius is even more killy and especially so versus skilled foes. Cypher is hard to kill as he always gets away one way or the other. I forgot Harkon even existed, so it’s good to see him get some love. Abaddon of course has to be a counterpart to Guilliman, so he will need a 9th Ed glow up.
I want to believe…
